Skakel: Somebody laughing.
Gaspar: Male or female?
Gaspar: Do you recognize the laugh?
Gaspar: Whose laugh was it?
Skakel: Helen or Martha.
Gaspar: Was she alone when she was laughing? Did you hear anybody else with her?
Skakel: (no response)
Why didn't Steven [Stephen] answer that last question? Something left him at a loss for words. Could it be that he was hearing, once again after all these years, the voice of his big brother? John Gaspar returned to this detail later on in the interview on page 13.
Gaspar: I'm going to bring you forward in time again to when you heard the dogs barking in the back and you heard the laughing. And if you would, please, tell me where was that laughing coming from?
Skakel: Behind the pool.
Perhaps, because of this and/or other details, Tommy is afraid that he will be placed outside with Martha right before her murder. Hence, the damage control. His "okay, but" is designed to safeguard his innocence should that information surface. Okay, I was outside with Martha, yeah we fooled around, but I was back inside before 10:00 pm. But, I couldn't have killed her.
This is a fairly Machiavellian mind at work. Is Tommy really capable of such plotting?
First of all, he has been lying for nearly eighteen years. A girl is dead and Tommy fails to mention that, on the night of her murder, he had sexual relations with her almost immediately before she was killed. Not only does he fail to mention that little detail, he actively misrepresents the truth by maintaining, time and time again, that the last time he saw her was at the side of the house at 9:30.
I don't think we even need to delve into the psychological reports and personal testimony which depict Tommy as a habitual liar capable of elaborate deception.
In all fairness, however, we must try and put ourselves in his position. Let's assume, once