Gaspar: Where's Ken and Michael and Julie now?
Skakel: Anyone who didn't come back with us is back at Belle Haven.
They discuss the ride back to Belle Haven:
Gaspar: When you drove back from the Terrien's [Terriens'], who drove?
Skakel: I think I drove.
Gaspar: Why didn't Rush drive?
Skakel: I think he gave up the wheel.
Gaspar: Do you remember why he gave up the wheel?
Skakel: I think he said it was better if I drive.
Gaspar: Who else was in the car with you? Besides you and Rush?
Skakel: I think just us, but I'm not sure.
This hypnosis session was not the first one between Gaspar and John, and not the first time this issue of Michael's whereabouts was raised. Suffice it to say, this is not an issue of John being momentarily forgetful. If anything, Gaspar went too far in trying to lead John into putting Michael at the Terrien's [Terriens'] and in the car, but John would still not capitulate. Indeed, the way he was answering questions about the car ride seems to be consistent with a subconscious conflict. It almost seems as though John, under the influence of hypnosis, plainly sees Michael was not in the car, and sees he was not at the Terrien's [Terriens'], but realizes someone was supposed to be there, (Frankly, Gaspar's leading style of questioning, in and of itself, gives that impression.) So John, it seems, is answering truthfully, but qualifying his answers out of some inexplicable concern. He says that someone, he doesn't know who, doesn't know why, but someone might have been there.
Gaspar: Who's with you?
Skakel: I think it's Rush, Jimmy and myself. (tape indecipherable)
Gaspar: Where's Ken? Is he with you also?
Skakel: I don't see Ken.
Gaspar: Is he outside or in the house or is he back at the restaurant?